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[REVIEW] Hyperdunk - Do you wanna fly?

Hyperdunk - Do you wanna fly?



Words & Images by Foamposite



Some sole collectors look for rare kicks with extremely limited colorways. Others are not. Technology is always the case for that kind of heavy sneakerheads. This swarm of freaks is always following new, and interesting designs, e.g. formotion, shox, computer chip, Free and many many.

These days, Nike has unveiled its latest technology – Lunar Foam and Flywire. These brand new invention are embedded on the spotlight of bball shoe of the year – Nike Hyperdunk. Within this review, I’m going to share some POVs with you guys about the design, beauty, functionality and pros and cons about these shoes. Hopefully you guys would enjoy it and share your thoughts with me regarding this highlighted bball shoe.

Now let’s drop the shoes you currently hold on your hands and let’s get into the scoop of Hyperdunk




Appearance



Let’s start with the upper first.

When it comes to this part of Hyperdunk, the new technology FLYWIRE is got to be mentioned. In all, FLYWIRE is a kind of special thread made of special chemical compound. It greatly deducts the total weight of upper.

Meanwhile, Nike also claimed that the strength of FLYWIRE provides athletes the necessary protection on upper. It even plays a better role than traditional upper material. Athletes would benefit greatly from it.






Take a glimpse at the Hyperdunk on your hands, you would be attracted by the large portion of FLYWIRE which is embedded with a chunk of translucent poly urethane material. It is believed to be the most efficient eye catcher of Hyperdunk.





So now let’s leave the technology and check out the design. The total shoe tongue is made of mesh and it just provides a different visual impact comparing to the high-tech FLYWIRE upper. If you look into the translucent part on the upper, you will notice the whole inner sole is made of mesh, which surprisingly empower the comfort.





Then let’s check the heel part. The external heel counter is similar to the famous AJXX2. It not only plays a role of protection but also becomes an ad for Nike. However, instead of the double layer FLYWIRE in the heel, Nike builds an extended heel shank plate stretching right over to the middle of the shoe arch. I would consider this design as a reinforcement of the light and thin upper design. In this way the heel shank plate would also provides athletes with enough support of lateral moments. The extension from midsole to upper also helps a lot.

Oh in addition, Nike considerably puts a small swoosh logo on the lace head, which increase the total feel of this shoe.

Then let’s move on to midsole.

Cushioning technology is always the case of Nike shoes. Hyperdunk is embedded with zoom air unit in the heel and a cushioning pad in the forefoot. Moreover, apart from FLYWIRE, Nike also utilizes a new technology called LUNAR FORM.

Traditionally, Nike uses Phylon as a lightweight material to ease the burden of athletes while balling in their sneakers. This time, Nike has brought that concept up to next level. LUNAR FOAM amazingly reduces the total weight comparing to a traditional Phylon based sneakers. Let’s take the famous lightweight Nike sneakers Nike Zoom Kobe III for example. Zoom Kobe III in the US size 10 is 447 grams whilst Hyperdunk weighs 395 grams.

Like what has been mentioned above, the extension from midsole to upper devotes itself to the stability as well.





Thirdly, the outsole.

Interestingly, Nike didn’t use the widely adopted herringbone pattern on Hyperdunk but to use a horizontal pattern. You can also see the similar element on Zoom BB and Zoom BB II if you would notice the circle on the forefoot.

Hyperdunk also has carbon fiber shank plate for the stability of midsole. This design seems to become a MUST for all flag ship models of Nike. You would also notice the outrigger for enhancing athletes’ lateral moments when balling.





Experience

Since my friends “e” and “k” have mentioned that this is going to be a pair I love I’ve been craving to put them on. Fortunately enough, I’ve tried them last week and would like to share some ideas with you guys.

When I firstly put Hyperdunk on, my feet were perfectly surrounded by the inner mesh sleeves. The comfort was just sweet. After I tightened the laces with 10 eyelets, the support was so obvious while Hyperdunk didn’t sacrificed the agility of moving. I think this is probably caused by two deep cuts of the translucent upper portion. In addition, you better wear middle-high socks to protect your shins when you ball in Hyperdunk for the first few times.

The selling point of lightweight is definitely a success. Sometimes I don’t even know if I was balling with a pair of bball shoes or running shoes. Somehow Hyperdunk really increase my speed in the game.

The translucent upper portion is a bit stiff when running back to court. The feeling is just like when you are folding a thick paper card. However, when you concentrate on the game you will not feel the difference.

The cushioning performance is pretty enough for me. Normally I played small forward in the games with my friends and the zoom air unit in the heel provides me with enough shock absorbent ability and fast responsive performance. I wouldn’t stick to the hardwood with Hyperdunk.

The cushioning pad in the forefoot puts me low profile to the ground. I benefit the fast first move and hard cut from it. However, there’s one question that some people say the cushioning pad is just the so-called LUNAR FORM whilst the other folks say it is not, and it seems that no one has the correct and confirmed answer about it. If you have the answer and the correct source, please kindly let us know.




As to the lateral moment support, I have to admit that I didn’t feel too much from FLYWIRE, and, it seems that Nike didn’t emphasize that benefit a lot but lightweight. However, I do feel the support from the extraordinary long internal heel counter and the extension midsole to the upper. I can make hard cuts with them without hesitations.

Even if the traction is not you-all-love-me herringbone pattern but the performance is nice. I don’t feel the difference between the herringbone pattern and the pattern we have on Hyperdunk. However, concerning about the durability, I’m a bit afraid that the depthless pattern would be vanished pretty fast.




Summary

1. Ankle Support
The support is nice with the extra high upper with 10 eyelets. If you put your Hyperdunk on with all 10 eyelets tightened up, you will feel pretty secured. In addition, the external and internal heel counter also help a lot.

2. Traction
Although it’s not herringbone, the traction is still nice on hardwood.

3. Comfort
With the all-mesh inner sleeves you can feel the total cover when you ball in it. The confort has been greatly elevated by this design.

4. Resonsiveness
The cushioning pad in the forefoot provide very fast responsiveness and low to the ground. The zoom air unit in the heel gives athletes enough shock absorbent ability to protect you from harm.

5. Durability
The traction is somehow a bit depthless. That would probably cause a shorter lifetime when you ball with them outdoors.

6. Weight
What can I say. If you think 395 grams for a single shoe in US 10 is not good enough, I think currently there’s no bball shoes on he market can satisfy you.

7. Overall
This is a great bball shoes for SG and SF. Hyperdunk is extremely light, comfy and functional no matter you are talking about performance or appearance. I really wanna give Hyperdunk a full score but seems sneaker companies are inventing hot new stuffs day and night, I think 9.8 points pretty much describe my feeling toward Hyperdunk.





Afterword

I’ve been stop writing reviews for a long while. One of the reasons is that I haven’t been deeply moved by sneakers for a long time. However, Hyperdunk has successfully touched my heart.

If you are a speedy shooting guard or a game terminator with strong desire of attacking the rim, I strongly suggest you trying Hyperdunk for your own good. Hyperdunk will bring you up to the next level.








This is Brotherhood!

If I were to make a basketball shoe
what would it look like?
how would it feel?
the shoe should be an extension of the player
it should be built to work with me
not against me
be as quick as I am
while at the same time, be as strong as I am

if I were to make a basketball shoe
it would be like nothing you've ever seen before


- Kobe Bryant for Hyperdunk
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舊 2008-07-27, 01:13 AM   #2
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Good...英文的鞋評
看來是該決定入手哪一個配色了.
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感謝鞋評 :P

不過根據研究區某篇比較 Hyperdunk 跟 2K4 的文章,兩雙鞋的重量主要是差在鞋底,影響的原因可能是 Zoom 的大小以及新採用的 Lunar Foam。
被拿來大肆宣傳的 Flywire 呢?鞋身重量相較之下似乎沒有輕量到哪去。
而或許是腳跟支撐片和向上延伸的中底,使得原文作者也提到鞋面的支撐性不算明顯。
問題來了,那 Flywire 在這雙鞋上到底扮演了什麼腳色?說輕量,效果不大。說支撐,好像也感覺不太出來。
是否 Nike 只是想趁北京奧運,用 Hyperdunk 來打響新技術的名號呢?
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感謝鞋評 :P

不過根據研究區某篇比較 Hyperdunk 跟 2K4 的文章,兩雙鞋的重量主要是差在鞋底,影響的原因可能是 Zoom 的大小以及新採用的 Lunar Foam。
被拿來大肆宣傳的 Flywire 呢?鞋身重量相較之下似乎沒有輕量到哪去。
而或許是腳跟支撐片和向上延伸的中底,使得原文作者也提到鞋面的支撐性不算明顯。
問題來了,那 Flywire 在這雙鞋上到底扮演了什麼腳色?說輕量,效果不大。說支撐,好像也感覺不太出來。
是否 Nike 只是想趁北京奧運,用 Hyperdunk 來打響新技術的名號呢?
相同重量下flywire 做到三倍強度
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相同重量下flywire 做到三倍強度
這都是NIKE自己的說法...

2K4的鞋面就支撐性來說的確是稍微有點不足...
不過綁很緊是還可以到OK的範圍...整體重量也是屬於13盎司等級...
Hyperdunk把前腳掌換成Lunar Foam (or 整個中底?)...
個人並不認為它的耐久性和舒適性可以和zoom air相比...
很明顯是趁奧運狂打...來強勢推出Flywire & Lunar Foam這兩種新技術...

純就鞋面支撐來說...Hyperdunk無疑是比2K4好的...
但是當我拿到Hyperdunk實鞋時的第一個想法...就是這Flywire鞋面也太厚了點吧...
我知道籃球運動對於側向的支撐需求要比慢跑高出許多...
但是這種厚度...會讓人覺得廣告把Flywire這東西也講得太過神了一些...

Flywire的設計就是複合材質的概念...
利用不同特性材質的結合來發揮出1+1>2的功效...
能夠有此創新與技術在我看來也是很了不起的...

但是就Hyperdunk來說...如果目前Flywire的技術真有NIKE自己講的那麼神...
那何必用到這種厚度的鞋面???豈不是自打嘴巴了...
一般鞋子的皮質也差不多是這樣...頂多就差在有沒有填充物...
相信穿過的人應該多少都會感覺到因為鞋面厚度&硬度而造成局部不適的情況...

這讓我想起當初狂打Shox的時候...
認識我比較久的人都知道我是很支持Shox的人...
我還是一直認為Shox這個東西很棒...VC1還是我個人整體評價最高的一雙鞋...
但是廣告裡面把這個東西講成了什麼樣???
反正就是行銷嘛~自己心裡能夠了解而不要被呼嚨就好...
不過我是那種明知道NIKE在呼嚨我...還乖乖掏錢出來的那種...
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哇賽~
愛豆爺~好久不見阿~
就FLYWIRE鞋面來說~
支撐的強度~除表面熱塑性材料外~
另一個重點就是那纖維的材質~
若如他目錄所言~使用KEVLAR克維拉纖維~(點圖裡面有鞋面材質的說明)
flywire REVIEW Hyperdunk Do you wanna fly 2008 07_29690

那支撐強度~在3倍以上~是極易達到的~
因為克維拉纖維的強度~應該是目前已經商業化的衣物纖維裡~強度最為突出的一種~
一般使用作防彈衣~強度可見一般~
但前提是真如NIKE所言的使用克維拉~

而Lunar Foam這種新型的輕量彈性材質~
於前腳掌區塊使用~搭配全中底的CUSHLON材質~
請見http://www.kenlu.net/forum/showthread.php?t=28461
給我的感覺~與其說是彈~
我覺得是種很穩定的合腳感~
像是調性再軟一些的adiPRENCE+
我喜歡這種舒適不失反應性的感覺~
但其耐用性我持保守態度~
畢竟彈性材質最大的缺點就是易隨時間而失去其彈性~

整體HYPERDUNK最讓我驚艷的
卻是他襪套設計給予我的極度包覆及合腳性~
強烈建議這雙穿著原尺寸~
那襪套是設計配合Lunar Foam及CUSHLON中底~
那合腳舒適性~甚至超越ZK3->純粹以舒適合腳性而言~

加上頗具彈性的後腳跟ZOOM AIR~
其實真有年度風雲鞋款的感覺~

惟小小不解~
大底號稱使用XDR超耐摩大底(一般網球鞋使用)
但卻是極薄(可能與為輕量有關)
且耐用性有待商確~
再2次重訓及幾次逛街穿著~
已經開始有磨損的痕跡出現....
唉~無奈ING~

但是卻是我近期頗愛實著的鞋子之一
朋友都頗驚訝說這鞋是啥來頭~
可以讓你一週裡穿2.3天~
真的~好穿~
我是丁仔.丁仔是我
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可是在穿脫上有點不方便

在脫鞋時都會怕把旁邊的小穿孔給拔起來= =




綁緊後真的感覺很棒!!



只是我有個問題...




他透明的那部份好像是塑料吧


那在陽光長期照射下會不會有破裂的情況發生?
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可是在穿脫上有點不方便

在脫鞋時都會怕把旁邊的小穿孔給拔起來= =




綁緊後真的感覺很棒!!



只是我有個問題...




他透明的那部份好像是塑料吧


那在陽光長期照射下會不會有破裂的情況發生?
破裂?! 太誇張了啦...
又不是你家曬衣服的衣架...
看過實鞋了 雖然是塑料
可是有韌性 應該不至於碎裂

不過看各位大大都那麼說
我應該要先入手一雙來試試
實在等不到紫黑配色了

有入手美國隊配色的大大們 請教一下
鞋面的褶痕會很明顯嗎??
尤其是前腳掌部份...
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破裂?! 太誇張了啦...
又不是你家曬衣服的衣架...
看過實鞋了 雖然是塑料
可是有韌性 應該不至於碎裂

不過看各位大大都那麼說
我應該要先入手一雙來試試
實在等不到紫黑配色了

有入手美國隊配色的大大們 請教一下
鞋面的褶痕會很明顯嗎??
尤其是前腳掌部份...

穿久的話還是有可能喔~
不過沒有兩三年應該沒那麼容易...



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哇賽~
愛豆爺~好久不見阿~
就FLYWIRE鞋面來說~
支撐的強度~除表面熱塑性材料外~
另一個重點就是那纖維的材質~
若如他目錄所言~使用KEVLAR克維拉纖維~(點圖裡面有鞋面材質的說明)
flywire REVIEW Hyperdunk Do you wanna fly 2008 07_29690

那支撐強度~在3倍以上~是極易達到的~
因為克維拉纖維的強度~應該是目前已經商業化的衣物纖維裡~強度最為突出的一種~
一般使用作防彈衣~強度可見一般~
但前提是真如NIKE所言的使用克維拉~

而Lunar Foam這種新型的輕量彈性材質~
於前腳掌區塊使用~搭配全中底的CUSHLON材質~
請見http://www.kenlu.net/forum/showthread.php?t=28461
給我的感覺~與其說是彈~
我覺得是種很穩定的合腳感~
像是調性再軟一些的adiPRENCE+
我喜歡這種舒適不失反應性的感覺~
但其耐用性我持保守態度~
畢竟彈性材質最大的缺點就是易隨時間而失去其彈性~

整體HYPERDUNK最讓我驚艷的
卻是他襪套設計給予我的極度包覆及合腳性~
強烈建議這雙穿著原尺寸~
那襪套是設計配合Lunar Foam及CUSHLON中底~
那合腳舒適性~甚至超越ZK3->純粹以舒適合腳性而言~

加上頗具彈性的後腳跟ZOOM AIR~
其實真有年度風雲鞋款的感覺~

惟小小不解~
大底號稱使用XDR超耐摩大底(一般網球鞋使用)
但卻是極薄(可能與為輕量有關)
且耐用性有待商確~
再2次重訓及幾次逛街穿著~
已經開始有磨損的痕跡出現....
唉~無奈ING~

但是卻是我近期頗愛實著的鞋子之一
朋友都頗驚訝說這鞋是啥來頭~
可以讓你一週裡穿2.3天~
真的~好穿~
抱歉這兩天跑去台中玩...還沒空回...奧運主場球衣竟然這時候上...
找Kobe的主場版球衣XL找了好久才找到... @@

克維拉纖維可以做防彈衣和坦克鋼板的強化材質...
強度想當然爾是非常厲害的...

不過所謂的三倍...指的應該是單條纖維vs單條纖維...
如果三倍是指整個Hyperdunk的鞋面...這樣似乎是over-engineered了...
也沒有如此不符經濟效益的必要...在功能性考量上...是否把厚度減為1/2~2/3...
強度可以有一般鞋面的1.5~2倍...但是輕量化、透氣性和舒適度可不止是這個倍數...

所以事實上是...並非如此~~

因此可能有幾個因素:
1. 纖維的密度不足
2. 所選用此種型號纖維的強度不足
3. 所使用的塑料強度不足
4. 成本or技術上的考量

此種厚度所代表的是...NIKE對它的能力還沒有足夠的信心...

目前看來Hyperdunk的輕量化...
在換了Softlon中底...以及後跟&中底外側穩定片改成發泡材質而非TPU...
此兩部分是做了比較大的貢獻...
當然不可否認的是...以相同重量來看...它的鞋面強度是一等一的...

行銷就是這樣...常常能把100分的東西...講成有120分...
奧運美國隊款我也是剛上就敗了...各方面我都很喜歡...
但是拿到手上的時候...就是有那麼一點點小小的失望...
畢竟廣告裡面講得可神了...
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各位大大, 可否評價一下 Hyperdunk vs Zoom Kobe 3 ?

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